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goose
03-07-2009, 05:49 PM
OPERATION: SIN LOI

WOULD LIKE THIS GAME TO BE CANNED FOOD DRIVE GAME[/B] Donate what you can (NO pun intended ;)) Bring a box or a bag full of canned goods for the local soup kitchens in our area. 5 or more cans I think would be sufficient.

Where: Andy's field (Acme, pa)
359 Kessler School Rd.
Acme , Pa 15610

When: Aug 16th 2009
Show up 9-10 AM
Game on 11-1130 AM

COST: No cost, this is a free event. I’m asking that you bring a box or a bag of canned goods to this game for the local soup kitchens.

Owner’s name: Andy Merranko.

Kevin's # 724-454-9645 call if you're camping AND directions.
Goose's # 724-322-1396



Field link: here (http://www.wpairsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1197)

I've been approached by some people concerning the longitude and latitude for this place (think it's on the field link) and if you do the gps, keslar and kessler school rd. is the same road. Don't get confused, they are the same. ALSO, TRY YAHOO MAPS WITH THE ADDRESS. I’ve tried others and have problems but not with Yahoo.

Teams: US and VC/NVA
US=camo (or if you have a VN uniform together please wear it) Let's see if we can leave the Multicam at home for this event.
VC/NVA=Black or civilian clothing, Tan tops with Green bottoms for NVA (if you have a VC or NVA uniform, wear it)

Weapon Restrictions:
US=M-variants, all other US made weapon replicas. M16s, M4s, M14s, Thompsons, M249s, M60s, Scars, etc.
VC/NVA=All other AEGs, AKs, HK variants, Sigs, etc. etc.

(As of right now) Each side will have a 6 man Spec Ops team. USSF for the US and a Sapper team for the VC/NVA. Each SF team will have harder missions and "special" privileges during the game. So what this means is when the game is going on and the "regular" forces are doing there thing, the SF teams have their own little missions to accomplish. You have been warned that these teams will have "special privileges". DO NOT complain to me about said privileges. Suck it up and drive on.

There will be a border the U.S. team cannot cross. Radios will be restricted to one per squad. The squad leader will have to communicate through his radio man. Expect to have booby traps at this event. Nothing that will harm anyone. They will be "noise makers" but MUST BE KILLS MUST BE HONORED IF YOU TRIP ONE. See rules below. Still a possibility of Artillery, Airstrikes and mortar fire missionsvia radio and map coordinates. (still thinking this one out). Medics for US side and respawn only if they hold LZs so the helos can land and drop reinforcements. Respawn for VC/NVA forces. Must have red rag to show you are wounded. Trying to give this event an air of Vietnam to it.

WAIVER:
People under 18 get it signed by a parent and bring it with you. If you're parent is going to be with you they can sign the mass waiver we will have at the chrony station. EVERYONE 18 and older needs to sign the waiver. Again, we'll have a mass sign in sheet/waiver like we did last game. People under 18 need to have a signature of your parent/guardian on the waiver. People under 14 need to have a parent on the premises at all times from beginning to end of the event.
The file for the waiver is attached to this post at the bottom.
CAMPING IS ALLOWED! But don't do anything stupid or we'll lose the permission to airsoft on his land :( The guy that owns this land is an ex-cop so nothing stupid.

IF YOU PLAN ON COMING AND CAMPING LET US KNOW PRIOR TO COMING DOWN. YOU WILL HAVE TO COME BACK UP TO THE BARN FOR START OF GAME SUNDAY AND BRIEFING 9-10 ARRIVAL.

There are three locations where people can camp. Near the staging area by the barn, when you start getting in to the AO off to the right, there is a nice flat clearing with a couple of small buildings. Probably fit quite a bit of tents in there. Last one is at the "cabin" deeper in the woods. These areas will also be used for the two main base camps, so leaving the tents up would make for a good effect as well.

SCHEDULE:

0900-1000hrs.
Show up time

900-1015hrs.
Chrono BRING AN EMPTY MAG AND AEG(S) TO THE STATION.

1020-1040hrs.
Staff briefing of the teams (at barn area). Concerning ROE, boundaries, etc. for the day. BOTH teams must be present at the briefing at the barn (staging area) before game start.

1045hrs.
Both Teams move to designated base camps.

1100-1130hrs.
CO Briefing of their troops. Game start no later than 1130hrs.

Scenarios
1130-1300hrs.
1300-1430hrs.

Staff Change. Staffers who did not play in the morning switch roles with their counterparts.

Scenarios
1430-1600hrs.
1600-1730hrs.

1800hrs.
Debriefing at barn.
Eat.
Mingle.
Raffles. (if any)

1830-2000hrs
Pack up Leave

THIS SCHEDULE IS NOT SET IN STONE. WE THE STAFF RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE SCHEDULE AS WE SEE FIT. SCENARIOS WILL BE GIVEN, SEALED IN ENVELOPES, TO THE TWO CO’S AND IT’S THE CO’S RESPONSIBILITY TO PASS ON ORDERS AND MOTIVATE THEIR TROOPS TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS.

There is a possibility of having random EXTRA missions thrown in to each scenario via radio.

People arriving late will be folded into the next scenario and will not be permitted onto the field until this time.
Yes, I’m asking that you read these all the way through and abide by them. There will be staff on the field to enforce these rules.
RULES:
Lunch in the field. Take what you need with you including but not limited to: H2O, Food, bbs, batteries, magazines, dead rag, AEG, side arm, radio, etc.
NO returning to staging area. Only the following reasons are legitimate for returning to the staging area.
1. Real life medical condition or medical emergency.
2. You are leaving the event.
3. Battery dies. (plan accordingly, carry what you need for all day play, carry 2)
4. Replica stops functioning
5. out of ammo (plan accordingly, carry what you need for all day play)

FOOD:
1. Please BRING YOUR OWN FOOD AND BEVERAGES, water is a smart choice for the day so you can stay hydrated. Make sure you bring stuff you can carry into the woods and ENOUGH FOR AN ALL DAY EVENT. We're talking approximately 6 hours in the field. Possibly more. BE PREPARED.
2. No drugs or alcohol during game play. You will be booted off the property if you are caught doing this during the game.

RESTROOMS
1. Unfortunately we have no access to restrooms. There are plenty of woods to pick a tree from though. Come prepared to squat in the bush, so to speak.
2. W also do not have access to running water other than what nature provides us in the form of a creek.

MEDICAL (REAL LIFE) CONCERNS:
If you have a medical condition, such as diabetes ( or allergies to bee stings and where you’re Epi Pen is), please inform staff of your condition.

EMERGENCY CODES:
If a player loses his eye protection or has a medical emergency, he/she should immediately call "Blind Man." Game supervisors will immediately signal a pause in the game until the affected player pronounces "All Clear", at which point supervisors will signal the game to continue. In the absence of game supervisors, nearby players should wave their red rags in the air to indicate a blind man call. Once the affected player pronounces "All Clear", players should return their red rags to their pockets and yell "All Clear."

EVENT STAFF:
Will be the Commanding Officers (CO) of each team plus the event organizers which may include but not exclusive to: Angus, goose (me), Kevin, Death Idol, Joker, Goose (nuke0070), Din, GoRed6, Bird of Prey, Badger, Cap, Greg, TDG.
1. These individuals are volunteers and need to be shown all due respect. They are doing this for themselves, you and for the game.
2. They will be helping out at the event in areas such as showing the places for parking, chronoing, directing people and making sure the rules are being followed. The rules for this event are there for everyone’s safety and so the day goes smooth and we have fun.
3. If you are approached by anyone of these individuals for breaking the rules of any kind do as you’re told.
4. If you argue or cause a scene with these individuals or with ANY individual, you will be ejected from the scenario, 1st offense. Do it again you’ll be ejected from the event and off the property and most likely from future games with this event staff.
5. IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WHAT SOMEONE IS DOING, NOT CALLING HITS, NOT FOLLOWING SAFETY RULES, ETC. INFORM THE STAFF AND WE’LL TAKE CARE OF IT. DO NOT HANDLE IT YOURSELF. THANK YOU.
6. Depending on the severity of rule breaking and frequency of a player doing so, we have set up the three strikes and you’re out policy of enforcing WPAMilsim rules
a. First strike: break a rule and you get a verbal warning.
b. Second strike: do it again and you will sit out a scenario/mission.
c. Third and final strike: shame on you! You will be asked to leave the field and may possibly be banned from future WPAMilsim games.

BATTERY CHARGING:
1. We will have battery charging on site as long as the generator has fuel and it is working properly. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN… We will have battery charging on site as long as the generator has fuel and it is working properly. We do not have access to electricity other than the generator and only if we have fuel for it.
2. Charge all batteries before the event and try to have at least 2 batteries. DO NOT rely on us having the generator working for the day. We will post it up if it’s available.
3. Event staff is not responsible for any damage to your battery that occurs because of overcharging or bodily harm if your battery or anyone else’s explodes near you.

GENERAL GAME PLAY RULES
1. Airsoft is a game of HONOR. Please call YOUR OWN hits!
2. Do NOT call opposing team players out. Calling opposing players out is poor sportsmanship and you will be warned and possibly sit out or asked to leave if you continue with your behavior.
3. Allow the embedded staff to handle any non hit calling incidents. Inform your CO so they can pass it along or contact staff via radio comm.

At NO time should any player ever touch another player from an opposing team with his own person or any handheld object (e.g. no knife kills) use (see)bang rule or surrender rule.

STAGING AREA WEAPONS SAFETY
1. All long arms must be carried on the sling (if on one) wherever possible with magazines out and muzzles down.
2. Side arms must be holstered.
3. No horseplay will be tolerated with weapons! Offenders may be asked to leave the Op.
4. Treat your weapon like it was real steel.
5. No firing of weapons is allowed in the staging area at any time.
6. Designated areas at or near the Chronograph stations will be assigned for weapons testing. Those areas (excluding the Chronograph stations) are the only areas near staging area where weapons may be discharged. This rule will be aggressively enforced. Use only those areas. If in doubt where to shoot, contact a staff member.
7. All players must have and wear eye protection during game time. DO NOT remove your eye protection during the game for whatever reason. If you’re having difficulties (ie. fogging), make it back to the staging area and take care of it there. If needed, contact an event staff and/or signal “Blind Man”.
8. Full seal is required. Full face is also recommended for those younger and for those close quarters shots.
9. Mesh is allowed
10. NO BLIND FIRING!
You do not know how close anyone is to your AEG muzzle and you DO NOT know if that person has eye- protection on or not.

SQUAD MAKEUP – 5 INDIVIDUALS
-1 Medic per squad of 5
-1 Gunner per squad of 5. (can be substituted with a rifleman and only with a rifleman)
-1 Grenade Launcher per squad of 5. (can be substituted with a rifleman and only with a rifleman)
-1 Demo expert per squad of 5 (when applicable) (can be substituted with a rifleman and only with a rifleman)
-Snipers need a spotter, they go out in pairs.
-QRF - Quick Reaction Force can be utilized by both COs at their discretion. QRF can be a 3 person team to provide quick support anywhere on the field. The people on this team can change anytime, and can consist of any type of weaponry. ONLY ONE PER SIDE.

HIT RULES
1. If a player is hit ANYWHERE: you’re wounded. GUN AND GEAR HITS COUNT.
2. When wounded by bb/rocket/grenade/mine/booby trap, or otherwise wounded/removed from combat, players should immediately do the following:
a. Wave your red rag above your head momentarily, then tie it around/through the front sight of your rifle or attach it to your head in a SECURE fashion. Expect to be hit multiple times while doing so - in the chaos of combat fellow players rarely have split-second trigger control.
b. Call “hit” Letting your team mates know you are wounded and yell “MEDIC!” Take a look at your watch and note when 5 minutes is up symbolizing bleed out time. If the medic cannot reach you before the 5 minute bleed out time expires, you are dead.
c. Keep the red dead rag visible and return to your nearest designated regeneration point or staging area. SEE REGEN RULES BELOW.
d. Return your red rag to your pocket/pouch once your regen time is up.
e. Red ball caps are not acceptable substitutes for red rags. The red rag rule is intentionally "inconvenient" so players will not forget.
3. REMEMBER DEAD MEN CAN NOT TALK. On the way back to regen, you CAN NOT tell your team mates where the enemy is. YOU ARE DEAD! NO POINTING, NO TELLING WHERE THE ENEMY FORCES ARE.

MEDIC RULES:
1 medic per 5 people.
1. Medics will get a piece of red tape on each corner of their collar to signify they are medics.
2. Medics are the only ones who can “heal” any player.
3. Only Medics can heal other Medics.
4. Medics cannot heal themselves.
5. Bring a RED dead rag. If you have one PLEASE bring it. If you do not have one, it will be provided for you. All I ask is that you give it back before you leave.
6. BLEED OUT TIME IS 5 MINUTES, then move to nearest team regen. SEE Regen rules below.
7. All players must have a watch/stopwatch to keep track of their bleed-out time.

METHOD OF HEALING
1. When wounded by bb/rocket/grenade/mine/booby trap, or otherwise wounded/removed from combat and after the player displays his/her red dead rag, they have a 5 minute bleed out time to wait for a medic to arrive.
2. If the medic arrives before the 5 minutes is up the medic will use the two (2) hands method of healing. Both hands must be in contact with the wounded soldier for a total of thirty (30) seconds. (This may change. If it does you will be informed prior to event)
3. If the medic does not make it to the wounded player within the 5 minute bleed out time the wounded player is dead and must move to their regen site.


MOVING WOUNDED PLAYERS
1. ANYONE (Medic or non medic) can move wounded at a walk but must keep ONE HAND upon the wounded player throughout the walk to their destination.
2. USE TWO HANDS ON THE WOUNDED PLAYER, YOU CAN RUN.
3. NEITHER THE HELPING PERSON OR THE WOUNDED PLAYER CAN SHOOT while being moved in this manner. They must stop where they're at and only the person helping can return fire.
4. A last option is having 2 (non) wounded players, one on each side of the wounded player, placing one hand on him and move him at a run or walk. This time THE INDIVIDUALS DOING THE "CARRYING" CAN FIRE WHILE MOVING BUT WITH JUST THE FREE HAND. ONE HANDED SHOTS.

This is where teamwork comes into play and cover/suppressive fire comes in handy.

NO CARRYING ANYONE OR DRAGGING WOUNDED PEOPLE. Some peoples gear isn't Military quality and you don't want to harm anyone in the drag process.

"BANG BANG!" RULE
1. If a player enters a close range situation where firing his/her weapon could result in unnecessary harm to an opposing player, AND he/she has the target "dead to rights," use the "Bang, Bang!" rule.
2 "Bang, Bang!" is a safety call ONLY. It is NOT a way of killing someone tactically.
3 If a player says .Bang, Bang! to you, YOU SHOULD HONOR THE CALL and immediately pull out your red rag. If said player was particularly sneaky, it is appropriate to honor the kill by "quietly dying" to not give away that player's position.
4 Do not use "Bang Bang!" in a situation where it could be disputed by a fellow player. If you do not have the target "100% no chance of survival/dead", closer than 15 feet from behind the opposed player, do not say "Bang, Bang!". DO NOT:
EX 1: You see multiple players from a distance and run though the group yelling "Bang Bang!" at everyone.
EX 2: You are hidden behind a bush, and opposing player approaches from the front. You call out "Bang Bang!" before he/she reacts.
EX 3: You come around a bush and immediately face to face with another player less than 10 feet from you. DO use PARLAY instead.

PARLAY
1 If two players encounter each other at 15 feet or less in the forward arc, one should call "PARLAY" and back off 15 paces. This is a safety call to avoid point blank exchanges.
2 Calling "PARLAY" means you have surprised an opposing player in a dangerous situation and should immediately back off.
3 DO NOT place yourself in a position where an opposed player's only choice is to accidentally stumble into you and force a parlay call.

REGEN/REINFORCEMENTS:
Regeneration/Reinforcement sites will be predestinated. In the event that the CO of each team sets up mobile regen sites he/she will inform his team of location of said sites.
1. After your 5 minute bleed out time expires, you die.
2. Keep the red rag securely attached to your head or front sight of your rifle and proceed to the nearest regen site.
3. Once there you must wait for 4 others ( a total of 5 people ) to come back into the scenario.
4. You can come directly back into game play once 5 people show up. You do not need to wait another 5 minutes but must wait for a total of 5 people to make up a squad.
5. You can wait for your previous team to regen or make up another squad with 5 different players. It's your call.
6. EXCEPTION TO THE REGEN RULE. Snipers and spotters only need two for them to regen. Same rules apply but only need the sniper AND the spotter to regen.


SPECIAL RULES PERTAINING TO BUILDINGS USED IN GAME PLAY.
1. When inside of the cabin windows must be open so the glass will not be broken as well as allowing the chance for the other team to utilize throwing balls as grenades.
2. BB Shower Hand grenades, rubber grenades or rubber balls can be used to clear buildings.
Only 4 grenades per person.
3. Grenade thrown into a room will automatically kill all players in that specific room protected or not. If there are 2 stories to the building a grenade needs to be used for the upper floor as well.
One grenade thrown in the first floor area does not kill the person upstairs.
4. Grenade MUST be hand tossed or fired from a grenade launcher into the room. DO NOT INTENTIONALLY FIRE OR THROW THE RUBBER OR FOAM BALLS OR ROCKETS AT ANY INDIVIDUAL TO HIT THEM.
5. A grenade, once tossed, cannot be reused in the same scenario.
6. You can not pick up a grenade tossed at you and throw it back at the opposing team. Honor the blast radius (explained below).
7. Grenade thrown into a hallway only kills players in that specific hallway.
8. Foam and rubber grenades are allowed. Firing grenades such as the Tornado or Deep Fire MK26 are also allowed.
9. These grenade rules apply to any building or any hole in a rock someone is hiding in.
10. Semi-auto in buildings. No blind firing!!!
11. Grenade Launcher BB shower grenades fired into buildings kill only the people the bbs hit. It does not kill like a thrown or launched grenade. Personnel can carry as many bb shower grenade launcher grenades as they can.

AREA EFFECT/BLAST RADIUS (This includes noise making booby traps as well.)
1. Hand Grenades, rockets, booby traps, and mines (except claymore mines) are defined as area effect weapons.
2. Area Effect Weapons kill all players within a 15 foot radius of their triggering, regardless which side activated them. HONOR THE KILL.
3. The player at the center of the blast radius calls out all other players, regardless their side.
4. Only hard cover protects you from an area effect weapon. Hard cover includes a stone wall, a bunker, a building wall or similarly completely obscuring terrain. Trees, bushes, shallow ditches, and other players are NOT hard cover.
5. Hand Grenades blast radius is determined from the point of landing. Hand Grenade BBs DO NOT have to strike a player to count as a kill.
6. Rocket blast radius is determined from the point at which it rests, unless it strikes a vehicle.
7. If a rocket destroys a vehicle, the vehicle is considered the blast radius center.

OTHER SIMULATED ORDINANCE
1. Airsoft Claymore Mines are classified directional weapons (NOT area effect), and their BBs must strike the target to count.
2. No pyrotechnics at this event.
3. Smoke may be allowed depending on the condition of the terrain during the event. ASK A STAFF MEMBER BEFORE USING, PRIOR TO START OF EVENT.

FPS RULES:
1. No bb restrictions. (Bios not required)
2. Velocity reducers are NOT allowed.
3. Players should report to the chrono station with an empty mag for each weapon. The Chrono staff member will insert the testing BBs in the empty mag.
4. The following engagement rules must be obeyed at all times (FPS measured with 0.25 gram BBs):
• 0-350fps: Full Auto, no minimum engagement distance.
• 350-399fps: Full Auto, 25' minimum engagement distance.
• 400-449fps: Full Auto, 50' minimum engagement distance.
• 450-500fps: Semi Auto only, 75' minimum engagement distance.
• 501fps & up: Semi Auto only, 100’ minimum engagement distance.
+/- fps isn’t going to hurt you on this scale. No worries.

COMMUNICATIONS
1. RADIOS FOR OPERATION SIN LOI WILL BE RESTRICTED TO ONE PER SQUAD (5 people). Simulating their use in the Vietnam war. Squad leader will need to relay orders/intel through their radio man.
2. AT NO TIME DURING ANY WPAMILSIM EVENT IS ELECTRONIC WARFARE PERMITTED.
(Electronic warfare is defined as (but not limited to) listening in or using alternate frequencies (channel surfing), interfering with transmissions intentionally or unintentionally through mechanical or electronic means (overpowering or VOX-ing the channel), or otherwise impeding player or staff communications.)
3. Radio Frequencies: COs will determine what channels to use for their troops. COs will also inform WPAMilsim staff members of radio frequencies they will utilize.
4. There will be a designated WPAMilsim Staff radio channel as well.


Even though I'm not separating sides yet please inform me which side you can do. We need some good AK (non U.S. AEG) wielding commie bastards to step forward for the VC.

WE NEED A CO FOR EACH TEAM. LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER.

Roster thus far: ~69

US-31 peeps-CAMO'S-let's try to stay away from Multicam if possible. US weapons.
Sholef
Joker +1
Dart +2
ArmCav
Andy
HK
Ghostdm
Yosh
Cap
Frankensteiner
Cricket
*LT*KillaEagle91592
Skyline119988
724 (possible +2)
Chunk
grenadelauncher-m4
xxdemonxx
$BwFOOtBALL24$'s Dad
Reese
Louie
Airsoft_Oracle
Lewis12
Bedzy13
Spyco
Mav
DeAtHMaTcH

VC/NVA-21 peeps
-ALL BLACK UNIFORMS, Tan tops with green bottoms or civilian clothes. Foreign AEG
Me (if I play that day)
Ian My son
Alex My daughter
Josh my other son
Kevin
Phantom
Snipy
Hribal
Red Spartan
Red Spartan guest
$BwFOOtBALL24$
Ronin
a Random Bullet
RussianGunner
Hoytie (possible)
canttypemyname +1
ekinser
Zeta
Skyline119988's guest
Pudding xVKv

THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE LET ME KNOW WHAT AEG YOU WILL BE USING. Anyone willing to be a VC needs a foreign weapon.

BroinArm
Silvertip
Alex
HOS
SlipKnot
Horvath +1
Pbpro9988 +2
Raider1010
QueenBee
GhostSniper
Medic
Razor
gFawkes
dslamoreau

ghostdm
03-07-2009, 06:14 PM
You know I'm down for this one. Maybe we could plan some things out, get a couple of VN-themed scenarios together and link up games for an overall story-line. ;]

goose
03-07-2009, 06:43 PM
Ghost sent a PM to Cap just talking about that since I know He and Lynn were working on one for this year, you part of that gig? I'm cool with that totally, already have some ideas for missions for Andy's too.

Snipy: well, my kids will be playing and my youngest is 10 so....cool thing with that? he has an ak so he'll be a little vc kid ;) maybe we'll have a village and he'll frag some Joes. More than likely I'll be VC/NVA as well, we'll see.

Anyone that young needs the parent playing with them. More rules and that will be posted once I get my head wrapped around everything ;)

Thanks guys

silvertip83
03-07-2009, 07:27 PM
im in on this...ill be on the US side :) looking forward to it!

Alex
03-07-2009, 08:16 PM
i like this idea. i live 10-15 minutes from this field.

ghostdm
03-07-2009, 10:42 PM
Ghost sent a PM to Cap just talking about that since I know He and Lynn were working on one for this year, you part of that gig? I'm cool with that totally, already have some ideas for missions for Andy's too.

Haha, not really. I kinda just butted in on it, but I have a billion ideas floating through my head since my purchase of Apocalypse Now!.

Joker
03-08-2009, 06:19 PM
I'm definitely in. You have two from Kilo Co. thus far... we'll see what else we can muster. I'd prefer US forces, but either is fine.

Phantom
03-08-2009, 06:33 PM
I am interested in this..The field looks great. I should be down for US forces..or if a SCAR works for VC I can do that as well.

Only thing is getting a ride, but shouldn't have a problem :]

-Phantom

Sholef
03-08-2009, 07:07 PM
If I have my wood stock for the M14 by then, it's on like Donkey Kong... I already have an SOF-esque loadout I could use...

GoRed
03-08-2009, 07:59 PM
Are m14's cool as U.S. forces?

When the US entered the war the M14 was standard issue.

Dart
03-08-2009, 08:09 PM
I will be there
(maybe plus a couple)

it sounds like fun

I have a US VN Tiger loadout that would be perfect and ill be using an m4, but i can be on the Vietnam side, i dont care, ill just wear a black shirt with teh camo pants

goose
03-08-2009, 08:19 PM
Yeah the M14 is cool, I actually forgot about those d'oh!

Throughout the months I'll keep a tally, we'll even out the teams once we get closer.

Thanks everyone for the support. Currently working on a game for April.

Any ideas you want me to consider please PM me.

airsoft_oracle
03-09-2009, 12:27 AM
cool i live in mt.pleasant so its like a 5 min drive ill be there 4 sure i have a scar-l so thats kind of an m series but i rather be on the vc becuase it looks like it will have less people

goose
03-09-2009, 06:32 AM
We still have time to work out the weapons restrictions (if any) but I'd really like to have camo vs. civvilian (blacks, tans, tan and greens preferably) at the very least for uniform restrictions. If we don't have enough AK wielding pinkos then we'll not worry about the weapon restrictions.

So with that, I think I'll just put all the names of those who say they'll be there, instead of separating them. I'll separate when we get closer to finalizing stuff.

Thanks everyone.

Armcav
03-09-2009, 08:32 PM
Count me in for the US side. Goose, I will be attending large airsoft VN event at Newville, Pa in May. I have some of the rules and weapons info now, and will be receiving an info packet soon. Have Angus bringing my VN M16 up to speed right now for it. Plus, I have help write many WWII and VN reanactments in may time. So anything I can do to help let me know. Bruce

goose
03-09-2009, 08:35 PM
Thanks Bruce, will do. Any info you wanna share with me is much appreciated.

Sholef
03-10-2009, 01:04 PM
I guess it's time to start building an ARVN Ranger loadout lol

harvester
03-17-2009, 03:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmILOL55xP0&feature=PlayList&p=82B010493F42138C&index=0&playnext=1

Just gettin y'all in the mood to fight Charlie.

Reeseflynn
03-17-2009, 03:37 PM
Im in. I guess with the VC because I have a SCAR

ghostdm
03-17-2009, 04:09 PM
I think we should have a weapon-restriction. AK47/74, RPK, and any other AK-variant for the VC side and M16, M14 for the US side.

Reese, if you seriously bring that SCAR to a Vietnam-themed game, I don't even know what I'd do...

Andy102.0
03-17-2009, 07:11 PM
I will come and be one the US team. Ill use my old Tompson. I think they were used throughout the war by SF and such right?

goose
03-17-2009, 08:17 PM
I think we're restricting it enough. I don't want to jump into the strict milsim head first.

I want to try and keep with what I first stated.

U.S.=Camo (actually would prefer O.D.s and Woodlands but leaving it open to all camos) M16 variants, M14s, Thompsons, HK416s, I was going to have Scars on the U.S. side as well...

VC/NVA=Civilian clothing (I'm saying this because it would make it easy for EVERYONE to dress this way and it fits the theme as well. If you can do it, dress in all black for VC, Tans and ODs for NVA) AEGs=everything else. If you have an AK then thats even better.

Just trying to have some restrictions but keeping it easy to confirm too. Hoping we can do it this way but so far not too many people for VC/NVA.

Maverick
03-17-2009, 10:50 PM
Pretty sure Im still around town for this. I dont see why I wont be able to come.

Hunter Killer
03-19-2009, 09:23 AM
a goose game after my healed date! count me the **** in!!!!
doesn't everyone have an m varrient though?

goose
03-19-2009, 10:03 AM
yeah, I'm hoping we'll have enough of non M-variants for the VC/NVA but if not then we'll try sticking with the uniform requirements.

goose
03-19-2009, 10:12 AM
Finally thought up a name for this.

Operation Sin Loi.

Let's make this another good airsoft event folks ;)

SlipKnoT
03-19-2009, 02:13 PM
Goose, I am so in!!!! I have to go find my old alice gear :)

Joker
03-19-2009, 02:20 PM
Changed the title of the thread for you goose.

Cap
03-19-2009, 04:00 PM
I'm in, ICA will probably all be US since we all have Ms pretty much.

harvester
03-19-2009, 04:32 PM
hmmm well im not sure what side i'll roll on yet. I might save the money and be VC and buy an AK or finish making the m14 sexy and play US.

goose
03-19-2009, 07:38 PM
LOL funny guys.

Gored: :rolleyes:

Joker: Thanks for doing that, much appreciated!

Horvath: HOS approached me about doing a VN event in Aug. so that's why we're doing it so far into the future ;) Also, this isn't a bad idea, it's actually a good idea because it gives us more time to play the land and try to get better ideas for the op as well as putting up defensive positions and the like.

Cap: Glad to hear it!

xxdemonxx
03-27-2009, 07:51 AM
i am pretty sure i can go. i only have m series though

*LT*KillaEagle91592
03-27-2009, 09:39 AM
I should be there. I'll have to be US since I have an M4

Pbpro9988
03-27-2009, 01:21 PM
im down with probably +2

Razor
03-31-2009, 08:06 AM
i would love to attend this event with goose o and what is this ******** about u not playing? i will keep up on the thread

goose
03-31-2009, 09:28 AM
lol razor! Sometimes it's easier to run an event when not playing ;) We will see.

a Random Bullet
03-31-2009, 07:34 PM
We need some good AK wielding commie bastards to step forward for the VC.

you had me at "commie bastard", i should be in.
hopefully Koulikov will be there as well.
funny we actually had a simulation about different views on the Vietnam war today in class....


hmm which AK to use?

goose
03-31-2009, 08:11 PM
LOL that sound cool. See if he's game.

Raider1010
04-01-2009, 07:38 PM
Put me down on the roster, this looks its going to be awesome.

Hoytie
04-02-2009, 04:06 AM
Put me down for VC. It's a maybe though. Definitely need to sling some pellets but the trip might be a little tough atm.

Skyline119988
04-02-2009, 07:50 AM
Sign me up for US I'll be there, possible +1

goose
04-02-2009, 07:56 AM
Thanks guys for the interest. I will not start separating people into teams until we get closer, but will give enough time to you if you wanted to get a uniform together. But please still inform me which side you can and want to be on.

I'm hoping that people attending will embrace some role-playing with this event at least with the uniforms. If people can do OD and TS for US and black, Tan and Greens for the VC/NVA, that would be really cool BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT. Come in civvies for the VC/NVA side and any camo for US if you do not have funding to make a uniform. Also, we'll see if we can stick to the weapon restrictions as well. If not we'll do the aforementioned uniform restriction, pretty simple.

SevenTwoFour
04-02-2009, 08:05 AM
Hey 724 here, you can possibly count me in on this. I have no clue when I'll be leaving for college but i presume i should be good for one last roundup there as well as 2 other possibilities coming with me.

goose
04-02-2009, 08:47 AM
Great to hear it 724, yeah I start Grad school on the 24 so that's why I'm having it on the 16th. ;)

ak-47assassin
04-05-2009, 01:36 PM
How do you get th Acme Field?:confused:

Joker
04-05-2009, 01:46 PM
Check the field list section, Andy's Field is listed with an address. Then mapquest.

cricket
04-06-2009, 12:35 PM
ill be there

goose
04-06-2009, 04:01 PM
Found a discrepancy about the use of 203s. I will allow them for building clearing and the like.

I meant to say and have been thinking on this line, If using a rifle firing 400fps w/.25s there will be no engaging with that AEG under 20ft. Meaning you switch to a pistol or use the "bang" rule.

Pistols and 203s will be allowed but still hoping people won't point blank people with them. A 203 would do wonders with clearing rooms and was also entertaining if someone has a 203 and foam rockets or balls to shoot out and hit hard targets, the people behind them are dead within 15ft radius. Go to respawn and come back into the game.

Making the game that much more interesting.

Russiangunner35
04-11-2009, 03:01 PM
Im in. Put me down for VC

Joker
04-11-2009, 04:17 PM
Yeah, don't lose the weapon restriction if you can help it goose, that adds so much more to the game.

goose
04-11-2009, 04:40 PM
I really don't want to, really really don't want to, so far though, not too many with AKs :( lol I know most of my clan will have ak's, might pick up another cheap clone AK just for the event so my clan can all be runny communist pigs.

REMEMBER FOLKS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN AK47. I'M NOT MAKING IT THAT STRICT, THIS TIME ;) VC/NVA weapon restrictions can be any foreign weapons. Any AK variant, HK variant, FN variant, SIG variant, etc.

Frankensteiner
04-21-2009, 11:36 AM
You know I'll be there with my us vietnam loadout... minus the actual slanted pocket shirt unless I decide to purchase one before this, which will most likely happen...

Hunter Killer
04-21-2009, 11:54 AM
I have my old mans bdu top from vietnam. all I got to do is buy some od green pants and fade em to match.

goose
04-21-2009, 07:58 PM
I am currently restructuring things, schedule etc. in light of the things learned Sunday. I will also get back to you about age. You'll be able to play since my youngest is 10 (almost 11) but still thinking an adult might need to be on the premises. But let me get things figured first, we still have plenty of time.

Schedule, I'm thinking a later time to start and having 4-5 scenarios, no more. Play straight thru, you eat, drink, urinate, dump in the field under fire ;) Day would start around 10-11 end around 5-6 PM. One staging area, and time after for everyone to mingle and bs. We will have staffing as well, in the staging area AND on the field. At least these are my goals.

Frankybaby and HK, glad to hear it and would be cool to see you guys rock a VN loadout.

Thanks guys for the interest.

Might have some raffles going off as well.

RedSpartan
04-21-2009, 09:09 PM
I'd like to attend this one. I will have my MP40 by then (its a foreign weapon!). My bro will most likely have a new AEG by then (German G3). The MP40 holds 60 rds per clip, would I be able to carry like 3 extra?? I remember someone mentioning mag restrictions and didn't know what that meant.

yosh201
04-21-2009, 09:09 PM
Schedule, I'm thinking a later time to start and having 4-5 scenarios, no more. Play straight thru, you eat, drink, urinate, dump in the field under fire ;) Day would start around 10-11 end around 5-6 PM. One staging area, and time after for everyone to mingle and bs. We will have staffing as well, in the staging area AND on the field. At least these are my goals.

great ideas, emphasizes on working as a squad giving support to each other, cant wait to see what else you got up your sleeve

I'd like to attend this one. I will have my MP40 by then (its a foreign weapon!). My bro will most likely have a new AEG by then (German G3). The MP40 holds 60 rds per clip, would I be able to carry like 3 extra?? I remember someone mentioning mag restrictions and didn't know what that meant.

with mag restrictions normally, it doesn't restrict the ammount you carry, but restricts the type... i.e. no high cap or box mags

gFawkes
04-21-2009, 11:19 PM
Sign me up Mr. Recruiter

Cap
04-21-2009, 11:37 PM
ICA for US

Frankensteiner
04-22-2009, 01:33 PM
hey for us would a jg mk36 be good




Weapon Restrictions:
US=M-variants

VC/NVA=All other AEGs, AKs, HK variants, Sigs, etc. etc.


so If he keeps the weapon restriction I believe that gun would classify under his VC/NVA

goose
04-22-2009, 02:34 PM
You're right Frankensteiner.

I'm still hoping for the uniform and weapon restrictions. More than probably my whole family will be VC ;)

Din
04-24-2009, 09:29 AM
Before anyone else posts in this thread...

Read the entire thread before posting a question. It has probably been answered already.

hribal
05-07-2009, 02:49 PM
Count me in, uncle bill. I suppose i will be on VC with an RPK.

Andy102.0
05-07-2009, 05:37 PM
So this is for shure on the 16th?

goose
05-07-2009, 08:01 PM
Yes. I haven't updated because I'm still working on it and it's still far enough away. Hopefully this weekend I can update some things that I have figured out and WPAMilsim has as well.

This is still on.

TwoShot
05-20-2009, 07:03 PM
i'll probably be going. but i have to give up the siege force in september(my mom will only let me go to one:(:mad:). i'll have some vietnam gear and an m14 by then. it'll be my first game, so i hope to meet some of you out there.

goose
05-20-2009, 07:19 PM
Update is coming, plz be patient and stay tuned, life is keeping me busy ;) But this is still a go!

$BwFOOtBALL24$
05-22-2009, 11:54 AM
i wunt to go but i have a sig 552 is that an ok gun?? also my dad will be coming but he has a thomson so he cant play rite

$BwFOOtBALL24$
05-22-2009, 12:16 PM
well i guess im the nva that sux since i gots a sigg 552 hahaha my dad on us he has thompsan count us in

goose
05-22-2009, 12:28 PM
yeah the sig would be on the vc side, tommy guns U.S. so that's a no brainer there ;)

TwoShot
05-22-2009, 05:04 PM
yeah, i'll be coming there. hope to meet up with some of you guys so i can finally put some faces to the names.:D other than greg:)

Pounder
06-23-2009, 02:51 PM
Hmmm black pajamas and a rice hat. I wonder what side I will be fighting for.

goose
06-23-2009, 07:38 PM
want to apologize, been meaning to get to this but my weekends have been super busy. Hoping to update it this weekend if possible. We still have time and yes this is still a go in case people are wondering ;)

Most definitely do some role playing for this if you can. I'm making it real easy for the VC dress code = civilian attire ;)

Ronin, sounds cool

Louie/
06-23-2009, 08:43 PM
might be thier. Could i use a m249 saw at this game? and would it be us?

goose
06-23-2009, 09:49 PM
United States of America son...;)

bedzy
07-06-2009, 05:17 PM
ill be there

Pudding xVKv
07-06-2009, 05:24 PM
most likely i'll be there

Zeta
07-06-2009, 06:22 PM
Most likely will be there, but I might have to work so I'll probably show up between 2pm-3pm.

goose
07-06-2009, 10:31 PM
Ok WPA, finally an update to the Vietnam Op: Sin Loi.

If I missed someone, and that is possible please let me know. You can Pm me if you like.

Depending on certain circumstances, specifics for this game may be changed. Right now we're looking at getting some more VC/NVA.

Those who have not told me what AEG you will be using, please tell me ASAP so I can solidify the roster more for each team.

Start thinking of what AEG you'll use and what uniform. I'm thinking we should shy away from MC for this game. No multicam. Right now, Scars will be US.

We need COs for each team. Volunteers?

There are some specific changes because this is a VN event, they are noted.

One last item. I'd like to gather some canned food for local soup kitchens, since this event is getting closer to the colder months. This isn't mandatory but we did so well with the cancer fund so I think we can all bring 5+ cans of food.

Thanks for all of your interest, hoping to make this yet another great event from WPAMilsim.

Zeta
07-06-2009, 11:27 PM
I have an OD shirt and pants as well as an OD vest. However, I only have an Mp5 so which side would I end up on? (Note: the OD vest is the only vest I have as well) Also, as mentioned before, I will most likely have to work that morning and will arrive between 2pm-3pm. Will there be any trouble getting into the scenarios that start after the time I arrive?

goose
07-06-2009, 11:31 PM
Shouldn't be a problem and we'll put you on the VC/NVA side with the Mp5 ;)

Skyline119988
07-06-2009, 11:52 PM
Goose, I would be using a M4 and just woodland camoflauge.

Also, my plus one is a defenant, He'll be using woodland and a G36C

Zeta
07-07-2009, 01:31 AM
Shouldn't be a problem and we'll put you on the VC/NVA side with the Mp5 ;)
Umm, i am assuming that I still have to wear something else instead of my OD BDU if I'm going to be on the VC, which shouldn't be a problem (correct me if I'm wrong). However, I do need my vest which is OD, which may make me look like a US guy since its greenish, so is this going to be a problem?

goose
07-07-2009, 07:48 AM
Just to make it clear for everyone. The restrictions go like this:

If you have a U.S. AEG and a camouflage uniform (other than Multicam) then you are on the U.S. team. Ultimately I'd rather you wear either Tigerstripe, Woodlands (old style), or full O.D. Green fatigues for U.S.

If you have an AEG other than a U.S. AEG then you will be VC/NVA and your uniform should be all black, civilian clothing or if you want do a tan top with green bottoms for a NVA look.

For VC I will allow someone with a U.S. AEG with total civilian or black uniform.

Color of your gear does not matter, no worries. And if you have a G36 and woodland camo you fall on the side of the VC/NVA because of your AEG. You'll have to wear either civilian clothing, all black or the green bottom/tan top combination.

Let's try to stick with these restrictions. IF you can do some research and play the part and just have fun with it. That's why we do it and why I do it ;)

snippy
07-07-2009, 08:31 AM
VC with P90 ?

goose
07-07-2009, 08:34 AM
I would say vc, yes. How many serviceman do you see using a P90, more of a secret service, police (SWAT) weapon.

Pudding xVKv
07-07-2009, 08:51 AM
I have woodland camo or if I get my German Flecktarn by then I could wear that. but then I have an AK-47 and an MP-40 so i have no clue what team you can put me on

goose
07-07-2009, 09:04 AM
Please read through this again and then if you do not understand ask me again ;)

Just to make it clear for everyone. The restrictions go like this:

If you have a U.S. AEG and a camouflage uniform (other than Multicam) then you are on the U.S. team. Ultimately I'd rather you wear either Tigerstripe, Woodlands (old style), or full O.D. Green fatigues for U.S.

If you have an AEG other than a U.S. AEG then you will be VC/NVA and your uniform should be all black, civilian clothing or if you want do a tan top with green bottoms for a NVA look.

For VC I will allow someone with a U.S. AEG with total civilian or black uniform.

Color of your gear does not matter, no worries. And if you have a G36 and woodland camo you fall on the side of the VC/NVA because of your AEG. You'll have to wear either civilian clothing, all black or the green bottom/tan top combination.

Let's try to stick with these restrictions. IF you can do some research and play the part and just have fun with it. That's why we do it and why I do it ;)

Pudding xVKv
07-07-2009, 10:33 AM
Ok so im VC/NVA but can I still wear my woodland or Flecktarn?

bedzy
07-07-2009, 10:53 AM
goose im using an M16 and ACU camo

Zeta
07-07-2009, 01:14 PM
Ok, thanks goose, I'll be using an Mp5 and I'll wear whatever I can find to fit the VC/NVA uniform descriptions.

goose
07-07-2009, 08:29 PM
Thanks guys. Pudding, you will need to wear civvies or all black for VC/NVA.

snippy
07-07-2009, 08:45 PM
Hey goose i may do US if i get this M16 done by then

Zeta
07-07-2009, 08:57 PM
If I have to go back to recharge my battery, will I be able to get back into the current scenario?

yosh201
07-07-2009, 09:38 PM
Just to make it clear for everyone. The restrictions go like this:

If you have a U.S. AEG and a camouflage uniform (other than Multicam) then you are on the U.S. team. Ultimately I'd rather you wear either Tigerstripe, Woodlands (old style), or full O.D. Green fatigues for U.S.

If you have an AEG other than a U.S. AEG then you will be VC/NVA and your uniform should be all black, civilian clothing or if you want do a tan top with green bottoms for a NVA look.

For VC I will allow someone with a U.S. AEG with total civilian or black uniform.
Color of your gear does not matter, no worries. And if you have a G36 and woodland camo you fall on the side of the VC/NVA because of your AEG. You'll have to wear either civilian clothing, all black or the green bottom/tan top combination.Let's try to stick with these restrictions. IF you can do some research and play the part and just have fun with it. That's why we do it and why I do it ;)

Ok so im VC/NVA but can I still wear my woodland or Flecktarn?

camo restrictions are up, it cant be much clearer than it is, but ill try to simplify it a little more though.

U.S. forces are the only people wearing camo. if your vc/nva he only wants you wearing black, normal clothes, or green pants combined with a tan top.

Maverick
07-07-2009, 09:57 PM
If I can make this(This is right after I get back from vacation), I'll be using an M4 variant. Both of my high-ends are an M4 and M16.

Armcav
07-08-2009, 08:12 PM
Still looking at making it. Really would like to stay on the US side, but with the weapon rules, maybe forced to go VC. God, I don't even like the thought of that.:(

DeAtHMaTcH
07-09-2009, 07:07 PM
i should be making this game and i will have my gun by this time ( m16/m4)
lol im the 69th person, lucky number

TwoShot
07-10-2009, 10:16 PM
i'll be there. and i'll have all OD by then, at least i should. u.s. since im getting an m14. FIRST OP!!!! hope to meet people!! i know i will. :)

goose
07-17-2009, 05:30 AM
Just got word last night that the owner only wants us there about 3 times a year now. :( :( So this has been canceled/put on hold.

I guess he and the Mrs. got into an argument about us being there and that's what he pulled out for us. We'll see how it develops and keep everyone posted but as of right now we're done for this year airsofting at Andy's. Probably start up again around April 2010.

Again, sorry for having to cancel this, I know a lot of people were looking forward to it but he's the land owner and we have to honor what he says. At least he didn't pull it completely out from under us.

Again, OP: Sin Loi is canceled.

This by no means affects the game this sunday the 19th.

harvester
07-17-2009, 11:09 AM
Closing this up for now. It will be reopened when we get more news on whats going down.