Wow, so true.

[Andy102.0]

Im sick of the Anti war whatever. Here's somthing for all of you who dont agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSIP-GGIZ8s

[Phantom]

I saw this a while ago, and I couldn't find it again..

Thanks for posting this

God bless all the troops out there, and wish them the best...

Stay safe out there and thank you for serving guys and gals!

[Phantom]

[MOOSE]

I have loved ones serving right now and support them 100%. I haven't seen my cousin in I can't remember how long. I'm so grateful for all they have sacrificed for us. That's why I don't agree with the war and believe we should support our troops by bringing them home safe. But that's a really powerful video. God bless America and our troops.

[GoRed]

That's why I don't agree with the war and believe we should support our troops by bringing them home safe. But that's a really powerful video. God bless America and our troops.

IMO, one must support the mission to truly support the troops.

[Joker]

This is just a reminder folks: This thread can quickly become a political discussion, so keep it about the troops and your personal opinion about the war, try not to being politics into it.




I personally don't agree with the war in Iraq, but support every single one of those guys, especially since I have met, and am good friends with quite a few vets.

[Sunday]

I have friends and relatives serving in Iraq, and also some who have already gotten back from there. I support all of our troops, and what they are doing. I cannot stand it when people talk crap about the war or our troops. Every veteran I meet, when I talk to them, they are all proud of what they are doing. Even if I don't agree with the wars our soldiers fight in, my thoughts and prayers will be with them always. God bless America.

[Johnny Mad Dog]

God bless America.

I find it's important to remember that God bless America, doesn't mean God damn everyone else.

People who criticize the war have every right to. Disagree with them all you like. Argue with people. More important than finding out why they DON'T support the war, ask yourself why you do. Personally I find that taking the life of another human being is just flat out wrong, be they terrorist or innocent child. Supporting the troops is about making sure they're taken care of, over there and at home. I have nothing but feelings of disgust for war, but these men and women do something I never could, and they struggle every day. For that alone I admire them.

This begs the question: Mad Dog, you don't care for war, but you like to play at it, what sense does that make? None really. It's fun for reasons I can't really describe, like anything enjoyable.

[Jarhead]

I appreciate the fact that you kept a civil tongue and posted intelligently (sp?) about your thoughts. As long as it stays this way, I have no problem leaving this thread open and allowing the discussion to continue. Keep it to your thoughts on war, not political bullcrap. It will be watched very closely. If anyone crosses the line, your post will be deleted and possibly more. Follow the rules and enjoy your debate.

[SAINT]

America is a country forged in the fires of war. its historical fact so you can say you hate war and fighting but its the reason you are living so comfortably today. Alot of people dont agree with the current conflict going on right now and thats fine, but its not the soldiers that decide to go over there its the government so to say you cant believe in the soldiers without believing in the mission is downright idiotic(GoRed). Ive talked to alot of soldiers who have been overseas and they have all told me the same thing. that we are helping over there but what we do has to stay over there. you have no right to say anything until you lived it, and to that i say HUA! 28th infantry baby get some!

[Johnny Mad Dog]

America is a country forged in the fires of war. its historical fact so you can say you hate war and fighting but its the reason you are living so comfortably today. Alot of people dont agree with the current conflict going on right now and thats fine, but its not the soldiers that decide to go over there its the government so to say you cant believe in the soldiers without believing in the mission is downright idiotic(GoRed). Ive talked to alot of soldiers who have been overseas and they have all told me the same thing. that we are helping over there but what we do has to stay over there. you have no right to say anything until you lived it, and to that i say HUA! 28th infantry baby get some!

200 some odd years ago we fought to gain independence. We've come quite a long way since then and I'd like to think we have learned about war, and what it can lead to. Look at the atomic bombing of Japan and tell me that those innocent people died for my freedom. GoRed has a point, to support them in their role as soldiers is to hope they succeed at their mission. If they fail at their mission, then there is a very good chance they aren't coming home alive. No right? I have the right say as I please, you should check the constitution out, it's nifty.

[GoRed]

I'd argue that the dropping of Fat Man and Little Boy was for our freedom. The Imperial Japanese weren't invading China and the entire Pacific rim to deliver flowers but to place the stamp of the chrysanthemum.

Also, a full scale invasion of Japan would have added an estimated 500,000 U.S. casualties and over a million more Japanese casualties. So, dropping the atomic bomb actually drew the war to a close sooner saving more lives from the events that already consumed 65 million worldwide. We have to take into consideration that Japan as a nation was not going to just give up because we were knocking on their door. It took two atomic bombs to get them onto the deck of the Missouri with a pen instead of a sword. In the Pacific theater the US already experienced 106,207 KIA with an additional 248,316 wounded. The math is pretty easy; plus 500,000 or plus 0 US casualties.

Also, you may be here today because an ancestor didn't get killed invading Japan. And thus, you have your freedom. The fight today isn't worth it if it's not worth it tomorrow. Both of my grandfathers fought in the Pacific. One of them at Tarawa and Saipan. The other from Australia through New Guinea to little Bayak island right off the Japanese archipeligo. I asked both of them about the atomic bomb. Both told me that they wished it would have been invented in 1941.

Johnny, we agree on something! Huzzah! I'd like to expand a bit on my thinking. When I mentioned supporting the mission I mean it this way as well... The military personnel taking on the role of the sheepdog are on a mission. It transcends politics. The mission isn't meaningless whether we like it or not. Supporting the mission is supporting who they are; duty and honor, risking it all on our behalf. No one wants to be told what they're doing is important in some vague terms. It's great to support the man on the ground as a person. Anything less is obviously resentful. And platitudes don't count for much. For those who have sacrificed and shed blood, we as the protected must demand nothing less than victory. If we do not then what do our words of support mean? That expressed, we must win. Always.


War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

[MOOSE]

I find it's important to remember that God bless America, doesn't mean God damn everyone else.

So true.
And heres me making my message at least 10 characters.

[GoRed]

*ahem* About the God <Bleep> anyone. Yea.

[Jarhead]

I find it's important to remember that God bless America, doesn't mean God damn everyone else.

Maybe to you Johnny. There are those out there for which I believe that is exactly what is meant.

[Andy102.0]

IMO, one must support the mission to truly support the troops.

Same here. That is the only reason I support it.

[GoRed]

Same here. That is the only reason I support it.

Not I. I support it because I remember the 90s. And I know what our enemies intend. Their PR efforts from Waziristan have been reduced to splicing together old audio clips of a dead guy trying to get people all worked up over Gaza. Not even they are talking about Iraq anymore. And that says something.

And I've contemplated the consequences of failure.

If anyone want to talk further on the subject, please PM me.


As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled...



"[I]t is possible to turn to biological attack, where a small can, not bigger than the size of a hand, can be used to release viruses that affect everything..."

"[O]ur striking arm will reach [America, Britain and Saudi Arabia] before they know what hit them."